{"id":5871,"date":"2025-07-28T03:44:29","date_gmt":"2025-07-28T01:44:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/editionsjou.net\/?p=5871"},"modified":"2025-07-28T03:44:29","modified_gmt":"2025-07-28T01:44:29","slug":"130-quest-ce-que-lart-par-cercle-ramo-nash","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/revuetina.editionsjou.net\/?p=5871","title":{"rendered":"#130\/ Qu&rsquo;est-ce que l&rsquo;art ? par le Cercle Ramo Nash"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-white-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-1a6c85f563a6e9eb256a75a3ebe4a816 wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00ab\u00a0Retour vers le futur\u00a0\u00bb  TINA vous propose de red\u00e9couvrir des textes \/\/\/<\/strong> 1992<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color has-medium-font-size wp-elements-b59621c491e38e71b459c150fb002739 wp-block-paragraph\">R\u00e9ponses du Cercle Ramo Nash au questionnaire \u201cQu\u2019est-ce que l\u2019art ?\u201d propos\u00e9 par Herv\u00e9 Legros pour le magazine Documents sur l&rsquo;art n\u00b00, mars 92, p.34<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color has-medium-font-size wp-elements-44188f12392070e3018113442e7882ba wp-block-paragraph\">Notre d\u00e9finition de l&rsquo;art est le produit d&rsquo;une analyse statistique des discours sur l&rsquo;art que nous avons pu recueillir et stocker. Bien que le terme de croyance artistique soit rejet\u00e9 par le programme avec lequel nous traitons ces informations, nous vous communiquons le r\u00e9sultat d&rsquo;un examen m\u00e9thodique de la liste de mots et d&rsquo;associations que nous nous avez adress\u00e9e le 8 janvier 92. (Nous en avons respect\u00e9 l&rsquo;ordre quoique sa logique nous \u00e9chappe tout \u00e0 fait).<br><br><strong>1. Lexique : <\/strong><br><strong>Art<\/strong> : Protocole normatif \u00e0 r\u00e9troaction positive (avec routine int\u00e9gr\u00e9e d&rsquo;auto-d\u00e9r\u00e9gulation s\u00e9quentielle) ayant pour seul objet la prescription de ses propres r\u00e8gles et pour unique fonction la validation p\u00e9riodique de ses op\u00e9rateurs et de ses relais.<br><br><strong>Chef-d&rsquo;\u0153uvre<\/strong> : d\u00e9signe un coup trop bien jou\u00e9 pour porter efficacement.<br><br><strong>Couleur<\/strong> : indicateur hi\u00e9rarchique binaire (couleur\/non couleur) marquant dans les revues sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9es le cr\u00e9dit attach\u00e9 \u00e0 une \u0153uvre, une exposition ou un artiste<br>(quadrichromie\/simili).<br><br><strong>Sculpture<\/strong> : occupation archa\u00efque consistant \u00e0 frapper un bloc d&rsquo;un quelconque mat\u00e9riau avec un outil appropri\u00e9. Aujourd&rsquo;hui la sculpture consiste surtout \u00e0 frapper les spectateurs (voir aussi Publicit\u00e9). On dit parfois abusivement sculpture sociale.<br><br><strong>Nature<\/strong> : (notre processeur d&rsquo;id\u00e9e ne reconna\u00eet pas ce terme).<br><br><strong>Peinture<\/strong> : passe-temps ancestral sous couvert duquel l&rsquo;individu qui s&rsquo;y adonne tente de faire le malin par tous les moyens mais dans certaines limites (le tableau). L&rsquo;extension continue du champ o\u00f9 exercer sans risque son esprit a depuis longtemps rendu ces limites ridicules, d&rsquo;o\u00f9 un malin plaisir \u00e0 s&rsquo;y tenir malgr\u00e9 tout, d&rsquo;o\u00f9 la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 d&rsquo;y \u00eatre de plus en plus malin.<br><br><strong>Portrait<\/strong> : un cr\u00e9neau \u00e0 reprendre. (avis aux gagne-petits)<br><br><strong>Composition<\/strong> : mani\u00e8re de retomber toujours sur ses pieds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color has-medium-font-size wp-elements-3e388b9e63bbaefd0df5136b21067605 wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Abstraction<\/strong> : syst\u00e8me de freinage. (?Bug?)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color has-medium-font-size wp-elements-3d8b6c34baf9a96ab558e88a1471254d wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Espace<\/strong> : nouveau concept de voiture \u00e0 vivre (Renault).<br><br><strong>R\u00e9alit\u00e9s<\/strong> : ne s&#8217;emploie qu&rsquo;au pluriel: constructions id\u00e9ologiques polymorphes. Dans la guerre des r\u00e9alit\u00e9sTM, l&rsquo;art reste un front secondaire.<br><br><strong>Artiste<\/strong> : joueur imprudent qui ne s&rsquo;est pas donn\u00e9 tous les moyens de contr\u00f4ler la partie.<br><br><strong>Exposition<\/strong> : plateau o\u00f9 sont visualis\u00e9s les coups jou\u00e9s sous la table.<br><br><strong>2. Associations :<\/strong><br><strong>Art comme religion<\/strong> : \u2026(erreur de syntaxe probable)<br><br><strong>Art comme sexualit\u00e9<\/strong> : \u2026(erreur de syntaxe probable)<br><br><strong>Art comme \u00c9cologie<\/strong> : art et pollution sont indissociables. Cela commence \u00e0 Lascaux avec l&rsquo;utilisation des premi\u00e8res peintures des premiers professionnels (On peut toujours vanter la formule bio-d\u00e9gradable de leurs pigments, il n&rsquo;en reste pas moins que les artistes de Cro-Magnon ont d\u00e9finitivement alt\u00e9r\u00e9 la couche immacul\u00e9e de calcite qui s&rsquo;\u00e9tait lentement cristallis\u00e9e sur les parois de la caverne avant leur intrusion). Produire sans cesse de nouveaux objets caract\u00e9rise une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 incapable de g\u00e9rer son \u00e9cologie. L&rsquo;art conceptuel aurait pu \u00eatre un art vraiment \u00e9cologique, mais la d\u00e9mat\u00e9rialisation de l&rsquo;\u0153uvre a stimul\u00e9 la<br>croissance de la production documentaire imprim\u00e9e pour laquelle on a coup\u00e9 beaucoup trop d&rsquo;arbres.<br><br><strong>Art comme jeu<\/strong> : comparaison qui pourrait servir de base \u00e0 une mod\u00e9lisation op\u00e9ratoire si elle n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas aux mains des Pilleurs des possibilit\u00e9s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color has-medium-font-size wp-elements-6ddb29954124277c159e897a1f297346 wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Art comme M\u00e9decine<\/strong> : \u2026(erreur de syntaxe probable)<br><br><strong>Art comme Terrorisme<\/strong> : fantasme post-pubertaire li\u00e9 \u00e0 une certaine<br>mauvaise conscience face aux dysfonctionnements sociaux.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color has-medium-font-size wp-elements-cd22df9ee751daf45f25691e5f84c0a5 wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Autres associations propos\u00e9es<\/strong> : aucune (nous pr\u00e9tendons rayer le mot comme du<br>dictionnaire &#8211; comme Mallarm\u00e9).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color has-medium-font-size wp-elements-fcb6a98b79e366e55b0ee8dc1401164d wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>3. autres questions<\/strong> :<br><strong>\u0152uvre d&rsquo;art (depuis 1980) que nous aurions aim\u00e9 r\u00e9aliser <\/strong>: \u00ab\u00a0La guerre des r\u00e9alit\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb (Galerie Sylvana Lorenz, mai 91).<br><br><strong>Principales orientations de l&rsquo;art d&rsquo;aujourd&rsquo;hui <\/strong>: celles qui se seront impos\u00e9es demain.<br><br><strong>Qu&rsquo;est-ce que l&rsquo;Art finalement ?<\/strong> Une activit\u00e9 sp\u00e9cifique (parmi d&rsquo;autres), dans un micro-milieu d\u00e9termin\u00e9 (parmi d&rsquo;autres), \u00e0 une \u00e9poque donn\u00e9e (parmi d&rsquo;autres), au sein d&rsquo;une culture particuli\u00e8re (parmi d&rsquo;autres), sur une plan\u00e8te isol\u00e9e (parmi d&rsquo;autres). Somme toute, un ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne assez curieux.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-49b146dd6f576b39c3b495b72ae680d7 wp-block-paragraph\">photo : Cercle Ramo Nash, \u00ab\u00a0La guerre des r\u00e9alit\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb (Powerglove Nintendo), 1992<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-white-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-4838f691414d099d8e1b4fe165e9fb89 wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"border-radius:13px;background-color:#517ba4\"><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-content-justification-center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-buttons-is-layout-20959078 wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-white-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/revuetina.editionsjou.net\/wp\/revue_tina_online\/\" style=\"border-radius:13px;background-color:#517ba4\">sommaire<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-white-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/revuetina.editionsjou.net\/wp\/tina-online-sommaire-par-categories\/\" style=\"border-radius:13px;background-color:#517ba4\">par cat\u00e9gories<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-white-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/revuetina.editionsjou.net\/wp\/tina-online-sommaire-par-nom\/\" style=\"border-radius:13px;background-color:#517ba4\">par noms<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-white-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/revuetina.editionsjou.net\/wp\/newsletter_tina\/\" style=\"border-radius:13px;background-color:#517ba4\">newsletter<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-white-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color has-text-align-right wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.helloasso.com\/associations\/association-jou\/formulaires\/2\" style=\"border-radius:13px;background-color:#517ba4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">dons<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-white-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/revuetina.editionsjou.net\/wp\/tina\/\" style=\"border-radius:13px;background-color:#517ba4\">infos<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-white-color has-vivid-green-cyan-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-687668f13d7dba0756fc1c806393881b wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"border-radius:22px\">Sans pub, sans subvention, en acc\u00e8s libre, TINA online est financ\u00e9 par les dons \u00e0 partir de 1\u20ac sur cette page <a href=\"https:\/\/www.helloasso.com\/associations\/association-jou\/formulaires\/2\">>>>>><\/a> merci<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color has-medium-font-size wp-elements-9ea9de3557edab6b4469dff93e6affdc wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color has-medium-font-size wp-elements-1eb39831a46b391e3df81c680f5507ab wp-block-paragraph\"><br><br><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Une activit\u00e9 sp\u00e9cifique (parmi d&rsquo;autres), dans un micro-milieu d\u00e9termin\u00e9 (parmi d&rsquo;autres), \u00e0 une \u00e9poque donn\u00e9e (parmi d&rsquo;autres), &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":5896,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5871","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-retour-vers-le-futur","category-revue-tina"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>#130\/ Qu&#039;est-ce que l&#039;art ? 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