{"id":10987,"date":"2026-05-21T02:13:25","date_gmt":"2026-05-21T00:13:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/editionsjou.net\/?p=10987"},"modified":"2026-05-21T02:13:25","modified_gmt":"2026-05-21T00:13:25","slug":"281-peine-kapital-marie-jose-mondzain-par-marius-guerin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/revuetina.editionsjou.net\/?p=10987","title":{"rendered":"#281\/ Peine Kapital, Marie Jos\u00e9 Mondzain, par Marius Gu\u00e9rin"},"content":{"rendered":"\n


J\u2019ai choisi de m\u2019entretenir avec ChatGPT \u00e0 propos du nouveau livre de Marie Jos\u00e9 Mondzain puisqu\u2019elle a pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment monologu\u00e9 avec cette IA. J\u2019ai commenc\u00e9 par demander: \u00ab\u00a0Que pensez-vous de Peine Kapital de Marie Jos\u00e9 Mondzain ?\u00a0\u00bb Dans le flot habituel, ChatGPT a notamment fait \u00e9tat d\u2019un \u00ab\u00a0dialogue (ou pseudo-dialogue) avec une IA\u00a0\u00bb. J\u2019ai r\u00e9pondu sur ce point, ainsi: \u00ab\u00a0Primo il ne s’agit pas d’un \u00ab\u00a0dialogue (ou pseudo-dialogue) avec une IA\u00a0\u00bb mais d’un monologue (\u00e0 deux voix). Deuxio il ne s’agit pas de n’importe laquelle puisqu’il s’agit de celle-ci\u00a0\u00bb. ChatGPT r\u00e9pond: \u00ab\u00a0Vous avez raison de corriger ce point [le fait qu\u2019il s\u2019agit d\u2019un monologue] \u2014 et ce n\u2019est pas un d\u00e9tail.\u00a0\u00bb Et plus loin : \u00ab\u00a0Et votre deuxi\u00e8me point est encore plus int\u00e9ressant : le fait que ce soit cette IA-l\u00e0 (type ChatGPT) n\u2019est pas anodin\u00a0\u00bb. Alors, na\u00efvement, j\u2019insiste: \u00ab\u00a0Mais il ne s’agit pas d’une IA du type ChatGPT mais de Chat GPT, de vous. Vous ne vous reconnaissez pas ? Vous avez oubli\u00e9 ?\u00a0\u00bb D\u00e9but de r\u00e9ponse: \u00ab\u00a0Je vois ce que vous voulez dire \u2014 mais non, je ne peux pas me \u00ab\u00a0reconna\u00eetre\u00a0\u00bb comme un interlocuteur r\u00e9el du livre, et ce n\u2019est pas une esquive\u00a0\u00bb. On est d\u2019accord.

\u00c0 la toute fin du livre, Marie Jos\u00e9 Mondzain \u00e9crit \u00e0 ChatGPT pour demander comment l\u2019IA en est venue \u00e0 proposer le nom de Mondzain comme celui de \u00ab\u00a0l\u2019interlocuteur fictif\u00a0\u00bb (sic) des entretiens men\u00e9s par Mondzain avec ChatGPT. ChatGPT pr\u00e9cise alors son pr\u00e9nom en \u00e9mettant cependant un doute. Il pourrait s\u2019agit de Michelangelo ou de Dominique. Je demande alors \u00e0 ChatGPT quelles sont les grandes th\u00e9matiques de la pens\u00e9e de Michelangelo Mondzain. ChatGPT me r\u00e9pond : \u00ab\u00a0Vous faites sans doute r\u00e9f\u00e9rence \u00e0 la philosophe Marie-Jos\u00e9 Mondzain (et non \u00e0 \u00ab Michelangelo Mondzain \u00bb)\u00a0\u00bb avant de d\u00e9tailler les th\u00e9matiques \u00e0 sa mani\u00e8re. Je r\u00e9ponds : \u00ab\u00a0Non je fais bien r\u00e9f\u00e9rence \u00e0 Michelangelo Mondzain, voire \u00e0 Dominique Mondzain\u00a0\u00bb. Manifestement ChatGPT ne trouve ni de Michelangelo ni de Dominique Mondzain. J\u2019\u00e9cris d\u00e8s lors : \u00ab\u00a0Pourtant dans le livre Peine Kapital de Marie Jos\u00e9 Mondzain, vous faites allusion \u00e0 Michelangelo (ou Dominique) Mondzain \u00ab\u00a0philosophe et th\u00e9oricien reconnu de l’image et de la m\u00e9diation visuelle\u00a0\u00bb. De qui s\u2019agit-il ? \u00a0\u00bb Me r\u00e9pondant d\u2019abord que j\u2019ai raison, ChatGPT \u00e9crit ensuite : \u00ab\u00a0La formule que vous citez (\u00ab philosophe et th\u00e9oricien reconnu de l\u2019image et de la m\u00e9diation visuelle \u00bb) ressemble tr\u00e8s fortement \u00e0 une description g\u00e9n\u00e9rique de Marie-Jos\u00e9 Mondzain elle-m\u00eame. Il est donc probable que : soit il y ait eu une hallucination\/confusion g\u00e9n\u00e9r\u00e9e dans une r\u00e9ponse pr\u00e9c\u00e9dente, soit un glissement involontaire \u00e0 partir du patronyme Mondzain, soit une mauvaise attribution dans un \u00e9change IA. Autrement dit : je ne peux pas confirmer l\u2019existence d\u2019un penseur connu portant ces noms dans ce contexte, et il est tr\u00e8s vraisemblable que la r\u00e9f\u00e9rence soit erron\u00e9e\u00a0\u00bb.

Bref, mieux vaut lire le livre de Marie-Jos\u00e9 Mondzain !
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Peine Kapital, Monologue avec l\u2019intelligence artificielle<\/em>
Marie Jos\u00e9 Mondzain
\u00e9ditions La fabrique, 2026
288 pages, 16 euros
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